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Originally posted by Six_Shooter

I'll post some pictures soon, I've just been relaxing tonight on the couch, surfing and watching some TV.

Z-Fest is a meet put on annualy by the OZC, Ontario Z Car club of Ontario. http://ontariozcar.com/ It's held at Christie Lake Conservation Area, just outside of Dundas Ontario. Are you friends HybridZ members?

wow ontario sounds so far when we live down here in florida haha. but no, they arn't really the building hybrid kinda guys but the 240 guy did pick up an old mg in a track a few days ago. he's talking about trying to put a n/a ka in it. i will have to tell him to join the hybrid board if he does that.


love the pics man. very cool setup and when you do go dis, please post up how you did it. i know the info is out there somewhere but i haven't stumbled across how to switch my v8 to it. if its not that much money i'd love to.

Thanks, I like it too and seems that other people do as well.

I wasn't sure where you were located.

As far as going DIS goes, I know how I'm going to do it on the I6.

I will be modifying the DIS wheel that my grandfather and I made that I used on my truck, to fit the Nissan crank pulley. A new bracket to hold the sensor, and then use a FWD 60 degree V6 ICM that was used from the 1987 2.8L all the way through to the 2005 3400, maybe even a year or two later than that. For testing I will also likely use the original coils, to make sure it runs, drives, etc, then work on a COP coil set-up, but still using the V6 ICM.

For the V8, you will likely need to use the Northstar ignition system and model a crank trigger similar to what it uses. There was a discussion on TGO, about whether the ICM actually uses the the cam position sensor or not.

There are also aftermarket systems that I'm sure could be integrated with $59.

Just to show the ECM:
http://domestic.3400z24.com/sixshooter/My%20vehicles/Datsun/Under%20hood/ECM%20and%20Wiring/ECM.jpg

I still need to mount it, but it does the job for now.

What's your firing order/scheme?

You should be able to use the 3.1/2.8 V6 dis.... no cam sense necessary.
Just fab a trigger wheel.

There are some cal changes you'll need to make as well.

Otherwise, though, it should plug in.

Dig

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Originally posted by turbodig


What's your firing order/scheme?

You should be able to use the 3.1/2.8 V6 dis.... no cam sense necessary.
Just fab a trigger wheel.

There are some cal changes you'll need to make as well.

Otherwise, though, it should plug in.

Dig

Dig, that's the plan.

The cam postion sensor was in refernce to the N* DIS, and TGO discussions I have read on it.

The V6 ICM doesn't have a cam position input, just uses an extra notch for "home" signal.

I have a trigger wheel, as I said, I just need to modify it a bit to fit the Nissan crank pulley/damper, and fabricate a new sensor mount.

Six_Shooter wrote:

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Thanks, I like it too and seems that other people do as well. :D

I wasn't sure where you were located.

As far as going DIS goes, I know how I'm going to do it on the I6.

I will be modifying the DIS wheel that my grandfather and I made that I used on my truck, to fit the Nissan crank pulley. A new bracket to hold the sensor, and then use a FWD 60 degree V6 ICM that was used from the 1987 2.8L all the way through to the 2005 3400, maybe even a year or two later than that. For testing I will also likely use the original coils, to make sure it runs, drives, etc, then work on a COP coil set-up, but still using the V6 ICM.

For the V8, you will likely need to use the Northstar ignition system and model a crank trigger similar to what it uses. There was a discussion on TGO, about whether the ICM actually uses the the cam position sensor or not.

There are also aftermarket systems that I'm sure could be integrated with $59.

Just to show the ECM:
http://domestic.3400z24.com/sixshooter/My%20vehicles/Datsun/Under%20hood/ECM%20and%20Wiring/ECM.jpg

I still need to mount it, but it does the job for now. :)

is this the thread on tgo you were talking about?
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/diy-prom/277616-dis-sbc.html


i'm back to searching and wow it seems so much easier for the 6cyl guys than us v8 guys. all that n* stuff and making up crank trigger wheels with a crazy amount of teeth.


i found this one and it seems so easy. just need a 6 tooth wheel with a 7th tooth to sync up #1 cyl.
http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/posts/dfi-ecm/461628-92-v6-dist-motor/3646353-post3.html

wish i could do that but with a 9 tooth and just the N* coil packs. but to much to ask i guess.

j91z28d1n2o wrote:

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i found this one and it seems so easy. just need a 6 tooth wheel with a 7th tooth to sync up #1 cyl.

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/posts/dfi-ecm/461628-92-v6-dist-motor/3646353-post3.html

wish i could do that but with a 9 tooth and just the N* coil packs. but to much to ask i guess.

You can, just not with the n* stuff.

Grab the ignition module off the LT5 (Zr1 motor) and build the 8+1 wheel.

There might be a way, too, with 2 4-cyl iron duke setups, but I haven't worked it all out yet.

I did read a few threads about the lt5 coils and icm but it was the zr1 guys wanting to switch to the n* stuff because of the cost of replacing their stock coils.

because of that I didn't even look up the price but I will.

I not 100% sure how the icm works, but I think it fires the coils. if they are 2 different parts. maybe a lt5 icm wired into cheap 2 4cyl coils?

just to follow up with the lt5 stuff. i spend a few hours searching around. and they are very hard to find. i only found one place that even lists them. they are not just a run to napa and buy lol


the part number i found for ac delco is 1103841. but even googling that number brings up nothing. as does gmpartsdirect.com. so i don't know for sure. i got the number here.

http://www.whiteracingproducts.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=121_144_138_63&products_id=229&zenid=r3e3ml6r9v89q7sehk8m2bp935

its the only place i found with a listing and they are out of stock. but at over $900 it really doesn't matter. the rest is pretty cheap. coils seem to be around 50$ and the crank sensor is 17$ at napa. so other than the ICM being nuts. it would be a sweet swap.

The coils are the least of your worries... you could use the v6 coils.

The module is the expensive part... $300+.

It's really too bad one of the aftermarket ign manus wouldn't design their boxes to accept the 7-tooth/9-tooth trigger directly... ie, no need for a module.

The logic involved is pretty simple and cheap. The high output power/voltage parts are a bit more expensive, but not crazy. What they get for an ignition box now-a-days is crazy, for what it is.

if you know where i could find the lt5 icm for around $300 it might still be worth doing.




i've read a few tech papers over the years about how a normal coil pack type of spark while slower to build, also lasts longer. where a CD box can sometimes be so quick and high powered that it blasts thru but doesn't light the mixture as well as the normal way.